Discussion:
Bill C-18 Court Ruling
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GM homepc
2011-12-08 17:30:16 UTC
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Can anyone explain how Agriculture Minister Gerry Ritz will be allowed
to push Bill C-18 though a PC dominated Senate when the matter has been
ruled against the law by a Federal Court decision?Granted the ruling
will be appealed.But in the mean time, wouldn't Senate involvement in
passing a bill that is presently ruled illegal by Canada's own justice
system make them an accessory to a crime, or at least in contempt of court?

If our ruling government truly believes in the rule of law and
democracy, why is Gerry Ritz so dismissive of a Federal Court decision
and so vehemently opposed to allowing and open vote by prairie farmers
to decide the fate of the CWB?Could it be that there are other more
powerful interests at play here, and that prairie farmers' rights are
nothing more than a red herring?
The Wizard of Oz
2011-12-09 12:33:14 UTC
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I'm going to add can.general and man.general to this conversation since
it has national implications.
Post by GM homepc
Can anyone explain how Agriculture Minister Gerry Ritz will be allowed
to push Bill C-18 though a PC dominated Senate when the matter has been
ruled against the law by a Federal Court decision?
I'll try.

The theory they are using is the government can change the law any time
they wish. Therefore they can never break the law.
Post by GM homepc
Granted the ruling
will be appealed.
Irrelevant (to them).
Post by GM homepc
But in the mean time, wouldn't Senate involvement in
passing a bill that is presently ruled illegal by Canada's own justice
system make them an accessory to a crime, or at least in contempt of court?
Not if they unilaterally rewrite the contract and define their actions
as legal.
Post by GM homepc
If our ruling government truly believes in the rule of law and
democracy, why is Gerry Ritz so dismissive of a Federal Court decision
and so vehemently opposed to allowing and open vote by prairie farmers
to decide the fate of the CWB?
You're making some fairly big assumptions here. Like the Liberals of
the 70's and 80's they believe they are ruling by divine right. They are
just as arrogant.

Still, people have to realise the Conservatives are doing exactly what
they have said they'd do for years. Is anyone really surprised they'd do
what they said they'd do. If you vote for someone who says they'll kick
you in the backside if they get elected and you get kicked in the
backside after voting for them then you get what you deserve.
Post by GM homepc
Could it be that there are other more
powerful interests at play here, and that prairie farmers' rights are
nothing more than a red herring?
Of course. The Conservatives are doing everything they can to become
Americans. Even our dollar is backed by the American Dollar. We no
longer have any gold reserves. I wouldn't say farmers rights are a red
herring. I'd say they are being sold to the highest bidder in order to
put our economy on an equally bad footing as the American economy.
Unlike the Americans who the Conservatives love to brown nose to, we
can't recall bad politicians until the next election. Otherwise the
Tories would be gone next May.

Later
Mike
Bob
2011-12-11 03:17:24 UTC
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Post by GM homepc
Can anyone explain how Agriculture Minister Gerry Ritz will be allowed
to push Bill C-18 though a PC dominated Senate when the matter has been
ruled against the law by a Federal Court decision?Granted the ruling
will be appealed.But in the mean time, wouldn't Senate involvement in
passing a bill that is presently ruled illegal by Canada's own justice
system make them an accessory to a crime, or at least in contempt of court?
If our ruling government truly believes in the rule of law and
democracy, why is Gerry Ritz so dismissive of a Federal Court decision
and so vehemently opposed to allowing and open vote by prairie farmers
to decide the fate of the CWB?Could it be that there are other more
powerful interests at play here, and that prairie farmers' rights are
nothing more than a red herring?
He can't, under the law the farmers must vote in a plebiscite to ok
the passing of such legislation.

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